You know...Our schools have failed a number of people in this nation...Not just Blacks and Latinos...but everybody...In school we were taught that the founders of this nation wanted a seperation of Church and State....Simply...You are free to worship God or not worship God as you see fit, as you are led...but that freedom does not give you the right to abridge someone else's freedom or discriminate against someone else because of that freedom...
I jokingly asked the question yesterday....How would these same people who freely get so "religious " when it comes to gays...feel if a Quaker clerk decided..."I can't give you a gun permit because my religious beleifs won't allow me to write out a permit that allows you to have a weapon that will take a life.." Oh it would be an entirely different conversation..I'm sure..
The thing that bothers me is that people could use their religious beleifs to refuse to do anything..."I can't sell you Pork products.....I'm a Muslim or I'm a Jew.." "I can't grant a marriage license to you because you're marrying an Arab and I'm Jewish...Or You're white and you're marrying an African-American and my pastor preaches against inter-racial marriage..."
See how ridiculous this could get?
The Kentucky county clerk facing potentially stiff penalties for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses has been married four times, raising questions of hypocrisy and selective application of the Bible to her life.
The marriages are documented in court records obtained by U.S. News, which show that Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis divorced three times, first in 1994, then 2006 and again in 2008.
She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband but adopted by her second husband. Davis worked at the clerk's office at the time of each divorce and has since remarried. Which means Mrs. Davis was seeing about three guys all around the same time...You naughty girl!!
Kim Davis has described her desire to strictly adhere to the Bible in stark terms and thus far has shown no sign of bending to court orders on same-sex marriage. She said Tuesday she fears going to hell for violating "a central teaching" of the Bible if she complies with the orders. The Bible has a lot to say about Fornication and Divorce too.....I'm just saying...
Kim Davis' struggle to exempt herself from the Supreme Court's June decision legalizing same-sex marriage has excited some Christian conservatives but legally has proven futile: The Supreme Court refused her request Monday that the justices intervene, and a federal judge will decide Thursday whether to hold her in contempt.
Davis’ divorce records, in the meantime, are a “popular file” at the local courthouse, a woman who answered the phone tells U.S. News, as bloggers(such as your truly) and social media users titter with accusations of hypocrisy.
The matter first attracted public attention in July, when WKYT-TV reporter Victor Puente made a passing on-air reference to the fact that Davis’ latest marriage certificate shows she was married four times. Kim Davis’ office stores that document.
Kim Davis did not respond to an emailed request for comment, and her office’s phone line was busy throughout the day Tuesday.
The leader of the organization providing her legal representation, Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel, says he’s not sure precisely how many husbands Davis has had, but that it's not relevant. Oh it's very relevant!
“I know she was married more than once – I’ve heard three [times],” he says. “It’s a matter of fact that she’s been married multiple times.”
Mat Staver says “it’s not really relevant, it’s something that happened in her past” and that her conversion to Christianity about four years ago wiped her slate clean. “It’s something that’s not relevant to the issue at hand,” he says. “She was 180 degrees changed.”
In a Tuesday statement released by Liberty Counsel,Kim Davis admitted she had lived an imperfect life, but insisted her current beliefs are sincere.
“It is not a light issue for me,” she said. “It is a heaven or hell decision.”
Three other Kentucky county clerks have expressed opposition to facilitating same-sex marriages, and one of them says Davis’ divorces in no way diminish her credibility.
Casey County Clerk Casey Davis, who is not related to Kim Davis, tells U.S. News he believes there’s a difference between getting a divorce and then repenting and living in a same-sex relationship.
“I don’t have any problem with that whatever, how she was before. If the Lord can forgive her, surely I can,” he says. “That’s something that’s forgivable just like any other sin, but if you continue in it and live in it, there’s a grave danger in that.”
Casey Davis says he wasn’t personally aware Kim Davis had been divorced and that he has no desire to speak with her about that. “You know this, people will say everything and all this stuff, they want to bring the worst out in the best of people. Obviously it’s human nature. I don’t like it and no one should,” he says.
The Casey County clerk currently is riding a bicycle across Kentucky to raise attention to the issue and wants Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear to call a special session of the state legislature to pass a law allowing local clerks to play no role officiating marriages and make their role mere record keeping.
Mat Staver says other possible avenues include the state centralizing marriage issuance or allowing marriages to be performed without attaching the names of county clerks.
But there’s no sign that will happen, and Staver acknowledges it's impossible for clerks to hold out indefinitely against ruinous fines given for contempt.
The American Civil Liberties Union, which is advocating on behalf of a male same-sex couple repeatedly denied a marriage license by Kim Davis' office, is asking for fines significant enough to compel compliance.
Mat Staver says supportive donors likely can extend Davis' resistance for at least some amount of time if fines are ordered Thursday.
Jail is also a possible tool to compel either her compliance or resignation.
“We are not asking that she go to jail, and nobody wants her to go to jail. We simply want her to do her job and follow the rule of law," says Heather Weaver, an ACLU attorney working on the case.
Weaver says she knows nothing about Davis' personal life.
"What I would say is she's entitled to her personal religious beliefs, but she cannot impose them on others through her job as a public official," she says. "Those other clerks that are refusing to issue marriage licenses should re-evaluate their strategy. They may find themselves embroiled in a lawsuit and facing contempt charges."
Her colleague Casey Davis says he won’t comply or resign, perhaps making himself the next local official to be sued. But it hasn’t come to that in Casey County. His higher-profile colleague is “from a larger county. There are more people there that practice that lifestyle,” he says.
Like I said...The schools have failed many people in this country...And people see the world the way they want to see it...Rule of Law and facts be damned ,except when it's someone else...
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